Thursday, 18 September 2014

Scottish Independence

Today is a very big day for the UK and to be honest it's one I'm surprised I've not talked about before now. I don't really have much of a Scottish readership though so it's not like I could have really swayed their opinions. It seems a lot of people also already have their minds made up so I might not have been able to change them anyway.
Is this the end, my only friend?
Scotland will today hold a referendum for independence from the UK, and to become their own country. Much the same way that Ireland did way back when the Republic of Ireland was formed. While at first it seemed a no vote was secure the tables have turned and the race has been too close to call for some time now. The no campaign has been absolutely abysmal and if there's one thing that can really be inspired in people it's national pride and patriotism. The number of independence referendums that have succeeded is way higher than the number that hasn't. Heck, even America wanted nothing to do with us.
Why does nobody love us?
To be honest I'm against Scottish independence, and not for any kind of political or economical reason. I just find it sad that it's 2014, almost 2015, and countries are still wanting to be separate and be apart. They still want to draw lines in the sand. Quite frankly I'd like it if more countries chose to stay together, and agreed to drop their borders. We're all one race, in one world, why should we still act any differently? Have we really not grown at all? It'd be nice if instead of saying Scotland can leave, we said "Alright guys, there is no more Scotland, but there's also no England or Wales. We're all just Britain now." I wouldn't mind losing my "English identity" but I imagine I'm part of a very small minority there.

I expect a yes vote, and for Scotland to get their independence. I expect this to come of patriotism and national pride. I expect this to make me sad.

Where do you stand on independence? How would you react if a part of your country wanted to leave? 

11 comments:

  1. We've gone through this twice now in Canada over the past 35 years -- Quebec has held 2 referenda on separation. The "no" side won both times but not by much. So we understand how emotions are running high on both sides of this issue in Britain and Scotland. I have always supported Quebec's right to self-determination. If they want to leave, that's their right. But I also hope they choose to stay within Canada and keep the country unified.

    Good luck to everyone, no matter the outcome!

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    1. I didn't know that about Quebec. Thanks for the little history lesson. With such a close call each time it seems like the yes vote might come eventually. It's their right to leave, but I'd much rather they stayed.

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  2. As you know, I'm an American. We have our own problems. But, I look at the move to Scottish independence and wonder....WTH? Is England really that bad (I doubt it...with the POSSIBLE exception of 1776...but I digress)? I personally think you're all swell. The end result will be weaker nations (for Scotland and what's to be left of Great Britain). I must have vision problems. Because I can't see it.

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    1. I'm with you Al. I can look back and say that we really deserved 1776. We deserved what the Indians thought of us, and we probably deserve what Scotland thinks of us, but the way forward is together, not apart.

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    2. Agreed. Well, now, Scotland has agreed to stay. I'm thinking that's a good thing, but I'll freely admit to being probably a dunce on the issue. As far as the comparison with Quebec, I don't think that it's very apt. I mean, Quebec is French, they speak French, they have a French culture. As far as I can tell, Scotland and England have very similar cultures and speak the same language. But, like I said, I'm probably a dunce. In any case, if you're happy, I'm happy.

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  3. I'm in the yes camp, but I'm not going to discuss the reasons why. I've read to many posts with people arguing and expressing hate over the issue. That turns my stomach. So we'll all just have to wait and see how things shake out.

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    1. That's another reason I didn't really want to talk about it. It's been done to death on both sides and I'm trying to take an almost neutral path to my points. I don't know how well I really did that though. If they choose to leave then it's what they've chosen and we'll all have to live with that.

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  4. "countries are still wanting to be separate and be apart"
    You're right, it's 2000+14, it's high time we start finding this ridiculous.
    On the other hand, very fair arguments can be made towards independence, regardless of the year. We'll see how the voting goes.

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  5. we've always had this problem with the province of Quebec in Canada. It's French and the rest of the country is English. I hope Scotland stays with you.

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  6. As nice as it sounds, I don't think we'll be dropping the concept of countries any time soon :P

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  7. I totally agree with your views and was pleased to read the results today. I don't understand why we have borders.

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